>> well, the whole theme of the obama state of the union when he said guns measure deserves a vote. that's not how congress works. obama is asking for the exception, not the rules. they have a bunch of rules that try to prevent votes. in the senate the obama team probably should have seen that republicans could have used the 60 votes against hagel, as they have. therefore, the big task for obama is to try to get a pledge from boehner, it will be very, very, very hard to do, zwrous get his measures that he's favors in his agenda to the floor of the house. that is very hard since boehner controls everything. >> chris, the exception, not the rule? but it seems that the rule these days is exactly what we are seeing. >> when it comes to i think big pieces of legislation or big issues, it is the rule. if you're talking about sequestration, a good example, it's going to require 60 votes for a deal to get through the senate, which basically means the proposal the democrats came up with just a few days ago is more or less dead in the water. >> right. >> immigration may be a little bit differ